Help me understand try and conversion please, I'm confused
I'm really lost trying to follow the scoring system when I watch the big matches π. Seriously, when you look at a try being grounded and then a conversion kick happening after, why are those points always treated as two different things?
It feels like you just get 5 points for the try, but then the conversion adds another 2 on top of that, right? Does the conversion kick actually have to be successful to count towards the total points, or does it count even if it misses? I don't want to sound stupid asking this stuff, but I'd really appreciate it if you could explain like I'm five π.
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βno shame in asking, dave, took me years as a lad at carisbrook to work out why the kicker had a go after everyone had stopped battering each other π the try itself is 5 points for getting the ball down in the in-goal, then the conversion is a separate 2-point reward, taken from a spot in line with where you grounded it, so a wide-corner try gives a harder kick. watch as long as i have and you'll see why they're split: it rewards the cleaner tries, out wide means a tougher angle.Been here longer than some have followed.
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Wait, does "in line with" mean exactly the same spot as where the try was scored? I'm still confused about that part. πLearn something new every day.
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you're right to be wondering about that 'in line with' part; it's a wee detail that gets overlooked a lot, even by seasoned punters sometimes. basically, when the ball is grounded in the opposition in-goal it's a flat five points for the try. that's the main score. then the conversion kick, which is just that extra two points, needs to be taken from the spot exactly where that try happened, or where the attacker was standing when they grounded it. if you try to kick from somewhere else, they won't give you the points. it's the kicker's attempt to turn a five-point score into a seven point haul. a real old school way to add some extra flavour to the tally, ah well, we'll see.Seen it all, lads.
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Back in the day at Eden Park we'd all hold our breath as the kicker lined it up from out wide, because that's the thing you blokes are missing, the harder the conversion the further from the posts the try was scored. The ref spots the ball where it went over, and the kicker walks back to anywhere on that line. Corner try means a nasty angle, five under the sticks means a sitter. That's why a good winger aims for the posts, not the corner πWatch as long as I have and you'll get it.
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Ohh that makes sense now, closer to the posts means easier kick π so grounding it under the posts is worth more in practice? cheers for that
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GloryDaysLegend, nearly right but don't get carried away, a try is a try, still five points wherever you ground it. The seven only comes if the kicker nails the conversion, and out wide that's no gimme, seen plenty of test kickers shank those. Handy for punters too, TAB pays first try scorer and anytime options separately from the margin, so knowing the conversion angle helps you read how a tight line moves.Bankroll discipline wins.