If the Chiefs are sitting second with 11 wins
Eleven wins and second on the ladder and still half of you are crying conspiracy at the selectors 😏 515 points in 14 games buys you more than three jerseys, surely. Wait for the Crusaders fanboys to arrive explaining how losing to the big sides at the business end counts as "character building" 🤡 Table says snub, form line says don't get carried away, either way someone's tearing up their TAB multi over it 💸
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✓Anyone who's actually watched the tape rather than just the ladder knows the answer, I've charted every Chiefs match this season and the pattern is consistent: they rack up points against the middle of the table but their three losses all came in games where the big-name sides pressured them into errors. There's a nuance here, small sample though, 515 points over 14 rounds looks dominant until you split it home/away, and selectors clearly weight how players go against Crusaders and Blues quality rather than raw cumulative scores.
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watching as long as I have, son, the ladder never picked a test side yet. form against the top sides is what gets you a black jersey, and the chiefs' Ls tell that story 😉Been here longer than some have followed.
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Nah Unders is talking rubbish, you smash 515 points in 14 games and tell me they're soft 😤 let the table pick the side for once tbh 🔥💪One love, one side ❤️
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Form line's the tell for me. LWWWL means the losses are recent, not ancient history. Selectorial trust follows the tape, and the tape's wobbled. Could be wrong, but I'd hedge before handing out jerseys. 📊Do the math before you argue.
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Millie I'm with you mostly but here's my caveat after coaching the juniors all weekend and watching every Chiefs game going 😤 515 points don't lie, that attack is genuinely special tbh 🔥 BUT my old man's voice keeps ringing in my ears, the table picks the shield, the tape picks the test side. FrontRow is dead right about that LWWWL run, those recent losses against the big guns hurt more than the eleven wins help 😬 Where I'll push back on the snub crowd though: nobody's being robbed here. If you're a Chiefs forward doing the business in Hamilton you're still in the conversation, it's just that Crusaders and Blues lads have banked trust from seasons of playoffs. Earn it against the top sides and the jersey comes 🙌 still reckon three or four black jerseys from this squad minimum 💪🔥Heart with the team, head on pause.
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FrontRowFan's got the shape of it, and I'd only add the nuance that the 515 points tell you about the opponents too. Depends how you count it, but a chunk of that haul came against the bottom feeders. Everyone's attack looks flash in a forty-point shellacking. What I'd want to see before handing out jerseys is the breakdown: how many of those points came when the Crusaders or Blues defence was on the field? That's the sample the selectors actually grade. Small sample though, three losses. And two of them sitting at the end of that LWWWL run is what stings. Millie, the table earns you a playoffs seat, not a black jersey. If a Chiefs winger torches the Blues in August, that tape does the talking; until then, Hamilton's men need to beat the big sides, not just feast on the rest. 📊Numbers > vibes.
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Nah I'm with Millie mostly, 515 points in 14 games says plenty 🔥 but FrontRowFan's got a point about that LWWWL run — the tape against the big sides has wobbled and Razor notices that stuff. I still remember barking my head off at Waikato Stadium when the Chiefs torched someone by 40, then watching them go quiet the next week against the real test 🔥 ah well, nowt to do 💪You don't abandon your own.
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I run my own spreadsheet on this comp every round and the thing that jumps out is the distribution, not the total. Five hundred and fifteen reads flash until you split it home versus away and by opponent tier, the two losses in that LWWWL run are exactly where the jersey selectors zoom in. I could be wrong, but selection isn't arithmetic: Razor picks off the tape against the Crusaders and Blues matchups, and a bloke who scores ten against the bottom feeders gets weighed against one who held his shape when the pack got rolled. There's a nuance here too, winning eleven from fourteen while second on the ladder says depth is fine; it doesn't say anyone's being snubbed. Pile up the points in Hamilton all you like, the test side gets picked on the tight ones.Do the math before you argue.
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Put a tenner on the Chiefs missing out on a stack of black jerseys at the TAB and you'd be laughing, honestly 😏 Everyone wets themselves over 515 points like the ladder hands out test caps. Razor's not picking the table, he's picking blokes who showed up when the Crusaders and Blues came to town, and that LWWWL run says a few Hamilton boys went quiet in exactly those weeks. Three jerseys feels about right, mate, cry all you like 🤡Here to argue, not to nod along.